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The Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices voted 11-0 with one abstention to recommend yearly flu vaccination for everyone except for children under the age of six months, whose immune systems have not yet developed enough for vaccination to be safe, and people with egg allergies or other health conditions that are known to make flu vaccines hazardous. If accepted by the CDC, this recommendation will then be publicized to doctors and other health workers.
U.S. government panel now pushing "vaccinations for all!" No exceptions…
Seeded on Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:26 PM EDT
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Maim those who are not already damaged....The reason to force someone to do something.... lies in the hidden agenda! And it isn't about preventing disease.
- 8 votes
#1 - Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:28 PM EDTCould mercury be included in vaccines not in spite of its devastating whole-body, all-systems toxicity, but BECAUSE it it? Read what Dr. Paul G. King, http://www.Mercury-freeDrugs.org, has to say on the topic.
Dr. King is one of my favorite health heroes. He is a human being who thinks like a scientist and a scientist who thinks like a human being. He also possesses one of the most important qualities which anyone can exhibit: he is fearless. Using his well-honed scientific logic, he asks questions that may seem to be inconvenient of impolite and then uses logic and research to find the answers.
Does, asks Dr. King, the use of mercury (Thimerosal) make any sense in vaccines as a preservative and antiseptic since it is not an antiseptic, not a preservative, nor is it safe? No, it does not. So why, Dr. King asks, is it used? What could possibly explain the available data? Perhaps that data is explained by the unthinkable: that Thimerasol is included in vaccines precisely because it is a systemic poison.
That is a horrific and close-to-unthinkable idea unless…. unless you look at that data. The questions of why anyone would poison our children “unto the seventh generation” is not one that Dr. King takes up. I do. I maintain that the sustainability of the globalists, which they do so love to talk about, is their reason for poisoning us with vaccines, Codex-degraded foods, pollution, deadly medicines and, yes, vaccines.
Read More: http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=5706
- 7 votes
ok.. right now. vaccines are stored. until needed to prevent epidemic, and thus need "preservative", so if they are going to mandate everyone get a vaccine, it should be able to go from manufacturer to patient, right..? or are we to belive it will still spoil.? Thiemerisol. scared me when I used to wear contacs and the saline was themerisol free,... at least the brand i used was...
here's to boiling to kill bacteria. screw the chemicals
- 5 votes
#2 - Sun Jun 27, 2010 5:06 PM EDTVaccines have short shelf life...FDA approves expired vaccines and antivirals...which suggests the dose will have the opposite effect (induce disease not prevent) which vaccines don't do anyway. Injecting yourself with mercury is all you need to do. The rest is bells and whistles. The result is a spiked immune system that protects for the short run but creates auto-immune disease in the long run without protection. That is why you need one every year. You would think once your immune system encounters a vector you would have life long immunity.
- 4 votes
In all fairness, they're talking about a recommendation, not a mandate. But it's apt to be a forceful recommendation that many will just go along with instead of pausing to do some research. More $ for Big Pharma and more risk for us, the guinea pigs.
- 8 votes
#4 - Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:32 PM EDTHey Remote hope you and the bitey are doing well. Oh and Madonna! You should know about this, the government will be putting microchips in these vaccines. Hmmm
- 2 votes
Thanks, Sherry! Bitey's coming along, day by day. The first couple of days at home were the hardest, but we got through 'em.
Microchips in vaccines? Hadn't heard that before!
{{{Sherry}}}
- 3 votes
So happy Bitey is recovering...shows how powerful her life force is....and we are all the beneficiaries.
- 3 votes
Remote Viewer:
In all fairness, they're talking about a recommendation, not a mandate.
The "recommendation" will likely receive the label "Best Practice" or "evidence-based medicine," which makes the "recommendation" almost the same as a directive, particualrly as read by law suit-shy doctors.
- 5 votes
#5 - Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:30 AM EDTOh yeah, upswing, no argument there. Your point about liability avoidance is very well taken. A thing can be called a recommendation and be something else under the surface, depending on the circumstances* ... it's just not an actual law, not at this point at least.
*For example, I have a gun to your head and recommend that you give me all your money.
- 5 votes
Remote Viewer:
*For example, I have a gun to your head and recommend that you give me all your money.
LOL!
Well said!
This is very similar to an example I offer to my rhetoric students to illustrate one difference between persuasion and coercion...
- 6 votes
Excluded are adults between the ages of 19 and 49 who do not come into close contact with people in high-risk groups.
Thank goodness I'm in this group.
- 3 votes
#6 - Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:04 AM EDTLooking at outbreaks like the recent whooping cough epidemic in California in which its only victims are young babies, this isn't a bad idea. The concept of herd immunity isn't too hard to grasp. You need to understand that when you don't get your vaccines, it's not you who may be suffering; it's the vulnerable people, the infants and the seniors, who catch the disease from you and perish.
University of Pittsburgh has a lovely slideshow-lecture on the subject: http://www.pitt.edu/~super1/lecture/lec1181/001.htm
- 3 votes
#7 - Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:08 AM EDTOften vaccines induce disease..... technically called vaccine failure. That is how the swine flu started in California. A young boy received a flu shot and died from swine flu. His body tissue was used to develop swine flu vaccines. Also we are being sprayed by unknown substances. I live in the county where the outbreak occurred. You cannot enter school or day care without immunization so the rhetoric is nothing more than BS...and a cover for disease inducing injections...and airborn exposure to unknown substances.
- 3 votes
You cannot enter school or day care without immunization so the rhetoric is nothing more than BS.
School systems often have exemptions for those who object on religious grounds or have medical reasons not to take vaccines. But the system makes it far easier to go along to get along than to insist on being the exception to the rule.
I have mixed feelings about today's vaccines. In the past I absolutely believed in vaccines, and I still believe that in general they probably do more good than harm, but that is not good enough. Along the way I have lost faith in the FDA and what passes for a health care system in this country. The corporate interests are running the show. Drugs, including vaccines, are pushed onto the market long before enough is known about them. This suggests to me that We the People are the beta testers, and I am not comfortable with that role for myself or my loved ones, or anyone else for that matter. The only ones benefiting from this state of affairs are lawyers.
- 4 votes
That is how the swine flu started in California. A young boy received a flu shot and died from swine flu.
Uh, when I google it, most of the results indicate that the first new case was a young boy, but he turned out just fine and wasn't even receiving any injection (according to the Wall Street Journal):
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124113696409275445.html
The first case discovered in California was a 10-year-old boy in San Diego County, who fell ill with a fever March 30.
Health authorities stumbled upon the case by chance. The boy had a throat swab taken at a clinic during a random check, a common procedure by health officials to monitor illness around the U.S.-Mexico border. "We got lucky," said Mr. Chavez.
Tests revealed the flu virus didn't match any typical human flu subtype. The CDC received samples April 14 and determined the cause to be the now well-known A/H1N1 influenza.
By the time state and federal epidemiologists reached the family, the boy had recovered.
And vaccines aren't made using human body tissue.
- 2 votes
Your report is a compete fabrication..the young man...died after vaccine failure...the CDC lies through their teeth! and yes they do use human tissue for vaccines...same is true for HPV...one dead woman's tissue supplied the virus for all of our HPV vaccines.
- 1 vote
Your report is a compete fabrication..the young man...died after vaccine failure...the CDC lies through their teeth!
If the only way you can debate it "ITS A LIE, A CONSPIRACY!!!!" then what the hell do I respond with? Another statistic that you will shoot down? What do you want me to say?
I can show you http://www.chop.edu/service/vaccine-education-center/vaccine-science/how-are-vaccines-made.html, but you'll think of it a lie that a live sample is used to cure people.
You will find your victim here http://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?EVENTS=on&PAGENO=2&PERPAGE=10&ESORT=NONE&SEX=Male&STATE=(CA)&VAX=(FLU(H1N1)) I don't have the time right now to parse him out of the hundreds of cases here.
- 1 vote
Uh, the link gives me no results. And honestly, your source doesn't sound as strong as the Wall Street Journal. Why does it only have memorials to the children who got infections from diseases and not of actually catching the disease? Seems damn unfair.
- 1 vote
Found 287 events where Sex is Male and State is CA and Vaccine is FLU(H1N1)
Event Details Report
This is page 2 out of 29
Result pages: PREV 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 NEXT
VAERS ID:
364145
Vaccination Date:
2009-10-27
Age:
7.0
Onset Date:
2009-10-29 Days later: 2
Gender:
Male
Submitted:
2009-10-31
Location:
California
Entered:
2009-10-31
Life Threatening Illness? No
Died? No
Disability? No
Recovered? Yes
ER or Doctor Visit? Yes
Hospitalized? No
Current Illness: No
Diagnostic Lab Data: tested + Influenza A
Previous Vaccinations:
Other Medications:
Preexisting Conditions: No
CDC 'Split Type':
Vaccination
Manufacturer
Lot
Dose
Route
Site
FLU(H1N1)
UNKNOWN MANUFACTURER
0
Administered by: Unknown Purchased by: Unknown
Symptoms: Chills, Cough, Influenza serology positive, Pyrexia, Vomiting
Write-up: Fever, chills, vomiting, cough.
VAERS ID:
364192
Vaccination Date:
2009-10-30
Age:
7.0
Onset Date:
2009-10-31 Days later: 1
Gender:
Male
Submitted:
2009-11-01
Location:
California
Entered:
2009-11-01
Life Threatening Illness? No
Died? No
Disability? No
Recovered? No
ER or Doctor Visit? No
Hospitalized? No
Current Illness: no
Diagnostic Lab Data:
Previous Vaccinations:
Other Medications:
Preexisting Conditions: seasonal allergies
CDC 'Split Type':
Vaccination
Manufacturer
Lot
Dose
Route
Site
FLU(H1N1)
UNKNOWN MANUFACTURER
0
IJ
LA
Administered by: Unknown Purchased by: Unknown
Symptoms: Pyrexia
Write-up: Fever degrees. Children's Motrin administered.
VAERS ID:
365281
Vaccination Date:
2009-10-27
Age:
41.0
Onset Date:
2009-10-27 Days later: 0
Gender:
Male
Submitted:
2009-10-28
Location:
California
Entered:
2009-11-05
Life Threatening Illness? No
Died? No
Disability? No
Recovered? Yes
ER or Doctor Visit? No
Hospitalized? No
Current Illness: None
Diagnostic Lab Data:
Previous Vaccinations:
Other Medications:
Preexisting Conditions: None
CDC 'Split Type':
Vaccination
Manufacturer
Lot
Dose
Route
Site
FLU(H1N1)
SANOFI PASTEUR
U008AA
IM
LA
Administered by: Other Purchased by: Unknown
Symptoms: Dizziness, Flushing, Nausea
Write-up: 15 minutes after shot, started to feel dizzy, nausea and flush.
VAERS ID:
365321
Vaccination Date:
2009-10-30
Age:
7.0
Onset Date:
2009-11-03 Days later: 4
Gender:
Male
Submitted:
2009-11-05
Location:
California
Entered:
2009-11-05
Life Threatening Illness? No
Died? No
Disability? No
Recovered? Yes
ER or Doctor Visit? No
Hospitalized? No
Current Illness: NO
Diagnostic Lab Data:
Previous Vaccinations:
Other Medications:
Preexisting Conditions: NONE
CDC 'Split Type':
Vaccination
Manufacturer
Lot
Dose
Route
Site
FLU(H1N1)
UNKNOWN MANUFACTURER
IM
RA
Administered by: Unknown Purchased by: Unknown
Write-up: Headache and Fever (103F)
VAERS ID:
365328
Vaccination Date:
2009-11-03
Age:
2.0
Onset Date:
2009-11-03 Days later: 0
Gender:
Male
Submitted:
2009-11-05
Location:
California
Entered:
2009-11-05
Life Threatening Illness? No
Died? No
Disability? No
Recovered? Yes
ER or Doctor Visit? No
Hospitalized? No
Current Illness: had a cold (runny nose and cough)
Diagnostic Lab Data:
Previous Vaccinations:
Other Medications:
Preexisting Conditions: none
CDC 'Split Type':
Vaccination
Manufacturer
Lot
Dose
Route
Site
FLU(H1N1)
UNKNOWN MANUFACTURER
0
UN
UN
Administered by: Public Purchased by: Public
Symptoms: Body temperature decreased, Chills, Crying, Hyperhidrosis, Pain in extremity
Write-up: Pt. would start crying inconsoluably, and said that his legs hurt. He started shaking (had the chills) and sweating (soaking his hair and beads of sweat on his nose). His temperature was on the low side (96.5øF). After a while, he would fall asleep and wake up again with the same symptoms. He had 4 bouts of this before falling asleep for the night 5 hours later.
VAERS ID:
365395
Vaccination Date:
2009-10-31
Age:
13.0
Onset Date:
2009-11-01 Days later: 1
Gender:
Male
Submitted:
2009-11-05
Location:
California
Entered:
2009-11-05
Life Threatening Illness? No
Died? No
Disability? No
Recovered? No
ER or Doctor Visit? No
Hospitalized? No
Current Illness: None
Diagnostic Lab Data:
Previous Vaccinations:
Other Medications: Humalog - Insulin Pump delivery
Preexisting Conditions: Diabetes Mellitus Type 1
CDC 'Split Type':
Vaccination
Manufacturer
Lot
Dose
Route
Site
FLU
UNKNOWN MANUFACTURER
RA
FLU(H1N1)
UNKNOWN MANUFACTURER
LA
Administered by: Unknown Purchased by: Unknown
Symptoms: Muscular weakness, Myalgia
Write-up: Left arm muscle weakness and pain.
VAERS ID:
365430
Vaccination Date:
2009-11-02
Age:
5.0
Onset Date:
2009-11-04 Days later: 2
Gender:
Male
Submitted:
2009-11-05
Location:
California
Entered:
2009-11-05
Life Threatening Illness? No
Died? No
Disability? No
Recovered? No
ER or Doctor Visit? No
Hospitalized? No
Current Illness: None known
Diagnostic Lab Data: none
Previous Vaccinations: redness~Influenza (Seasonal) (Fluzone)~2~3.00~Patient
Other Medications:
Preexisting Conditions: none
CDC 'Split Type':
Vaccination
Manufacturer
Lot
Dose
Route
Site
FLU(H1N1)
SANOFI PASTEUR
up005aa
0
IM
RA
Administered by: Private Purchased by: Public
Symptoms: Injection site erythema, Injection site swelling, Injection site warmth
Write-up: redness, warmth, and swelling of right upper arm below vaccination site
VAERS ID:
365432
Vaccination Date:
2009-11-03
Age:
2.0
Onset Date:
2009-11-04 Days later: 1
Gender:
Male
Submitted:
2009-11-05
Location:
California
Entered:
2009-11-05
Life Threatening Illness? No
Died? No
Disability? No
Recovered? No
ER or Doctor Visit? No
Hospitalized? No
Current Illness: none
Diagnostic Lab Data:
Previous Vaccinations:
Other Medications:
Preexisting Conditions: none
CDC 'Split Type': CA
Vaccination
Manufacturer
Lot
Dose
Route
Site
FLU(H1N1)
UNKNOWN MANUFACTURER
0
IM
RL
Administered by: Private Purchased by: Unknown
Symptoms: Malaise, Pyrexia, Respiratory tract congestion
Write-up: Fever of 102.5, malaise and congestion
VAERS ID:
365501
Vaccination Date:
2009-11-04
Age:
9.0
Onset Date:
2009-11-05 Days later: 1
Gender:
Male
Submitted:
2009-11-05
Location:
California
Entered:
2009-11-05
Life Threatening Illness? No
Died? No
Disability? No
Recovered? No
ER or Doctor Visit? No
Hospitalized? No
Current Illness: When evaluated for reaction was found to have otitis media, no symptoms previous to flu shot. Imm. given at school by Public
Diagnostic Lab Data:
Previous Vaccinations:
Other Medications:
Preexisting Conditions:
CDC 'Split Type':
Vaccination
Manufacturer
Lot
Dose
Route
Site
FLU(H1N1)
UNKNOWN MANUFACTURER
0
RA
Administered by: Unknown Purchased by: Unknown
Symptoms: Dyspnoea, Headache, Nausea, Otitis media, Pain, Pyrexia
Write-up: Fevers of 102...general severe body aches, nausea, headache, felt some difficulty breathing. Symptomatic tx for fevers, po fluids (also treated with antibiotics for otitis media.
VAERS ID:
365655
Vaccination Date:
2009-11-04
Age:
0.6
Onset Date:
2009-11-04 Days later: 0
Gender:
Male
Submitted:
2009-11-05
Location:
California
Entered:
2009-11-06
Life Threatening Illness? No
Died? No
Disability? No
Recovered? Yes
ER or Doctor Visit? Yes
Hospitalized? No
Current Illness: None
Diagnostic Lab Data: None
Previous Vaccinations:
Other Medications:
Preexisting Conditions:
CDC 'Split Type':
Vaccination
Manufacturer
Lot
Dose
Route
Site
FLU
SANOFI PASTEUR
UT3178CA
1
IM
UN
FLU(H1N1)
SANOFI PASTEUR
UT014CA
1
IM
UN
Administered by: Private Purchased by: Public
Symptoms: Convulsion, Pyrexia
Write-up: Received H1N1 and Influenza vaccine on 11/4/09. Developed fever and had brief convulsion lasting.
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Go for it!!!
- 1 vote
Why would I want to dig in a possibly biased archive when I have several articles stating the exact fact I want?
- 1 vote
That's really unfair. Why is your source "America's Vaccine Safety Watchdog" better than mine "The Wall Street Journal"? Why am I the ignorant one? I vote we stop arguing, because we clearly cannot take the other seriously.
- 1 vote
Because our main stream media is corrupt...they will publish anything the CDC or WHO states be it right or wrong...I am not arguing...I presented the facts. If you want to protect yourself and your family...you will have to step up and do some research for yourself...or you can believe the lies and suffer the consequences like the children in the data base provided.
- 2 votes
And your source actively campaigns against both of them. Let's stop.
And Big Pharma....and their investors.....
- 3 votes
#8 - Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:16 PM EDTAnd Big Pharma....and their investors.....
Oh absolutely, them too, and more than the lawyers. Whatever the lawyers manage to suck out of them is just a minor cost of doing business, I fear.
- 4 votes
Hope it stays a recommendation, and not mandatory. ;)
- 4 votes
#9 - Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:20 PM EDTYes who wants mercury, formaldehyde ect injected into their body?
- 3 votes
Really. Mercury, usually used in thermometers and batteries - guess they are trying to turn us into preserved energizer-bunnies that last forever!!
- 3 votes
If you're vaccinated, why would you be afraid of someone who isn't? Maybe those vaccines don't really work?
- 1 vote
#10 - Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:49 AM EDTIf you're vaccinated, why would you be afraid of someone who isn't?
That's the same thing I've wondered many a time, stanmrak. Can't see how I'm putting others at risk by not getting vaccinated. Something missing in the logic there, if the vaccine actually is effective.
- 2 votes
Can't see how I'm putting others at risk by not getting vaccinated.
If you catch the disease, you may be totally fine. For example, I caught swine flu before the vaccine and I was totally okay. However, when you catch such a disease, you can spread it to other vaccinated people (they, too, can be all right). When the population becomes progressively more and more diseased (the unvaccinated people, that is) the chance of spreading it to babies and unvaccinated children can be much higher. And these groups are usually the ones with the highest death rates in such situations.
The vaccines work fine.
- 1 vote
Sorry for your children in they live in California!
http://www.foodconsumer.org/newsite/2/other_diseases/whooping_cough_epidemic_deadly_062920100945.html
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